We did this hike in conjunction with the Comanche Lake hike to form the Comanche-Venable loop. If you do this loop, I'd definitely recommend going up the Venable trail and down the Comanche Lake trail, if for no other reason than climbing up Phantom Terrace is way easier than climbing down it. I'm very happy we didn't do this in reverse. The hike up was mostly through the trees. The forest here is incredibly lush at this time of year and there are lots of mosquitoes, so bring plenty of repellent. The lakes are quite pretty, set in a beautiful alpine bowl just above treeline. We saw lots of wildlife in the area, including a number of marmots and a small herd of elk we surprised cooling themselves in a snowbank near the upper lake. There were a few other groups hiking the Comanche-Venable loop, but for the most part we had the trail and lakes to ourselves. My only complaint was the amount of garbage we found near the lake. We packed out several granola bar wrappers, some old fishing line, a plastic bag, a stocking cap, and broken glass. We also saw a garbage bag floating in the lake but couldn't get to it. If you're doing this hike or any other, don't leave your trash behind!!